英国的网友来说一下,在你们高中是怎么描绘不列颠殖民主义的?_风闻
龙腾网-2021-01-19 17:17
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I am from one of the commonwealth countries and have always been taught how British colonialism was devastating for the country. Having said that, I understand that each country will have their own viewpoints on historical events and I would like to know the other side and weed out any inaccuracies that I might have learnt growing up. I tried to google it to no avail. Feel free to point to a book so I may educate myself. Thanks.
我来自英联邦国家,一直被教导不列颠殖民主义对我们国家的摧残。不过,我也能理解各个国家对历史事件都有自己的看法,因此我想从另一个视角了解一下,剔除我成长过程中学到的可能不对的地方。我用谷歌搜了一下,没什么好答案。或者提供一些书籍让我学习一下。感激不尽。
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MadLadEnzo
That is interesting. Was the end of colonialism ever covered? Was it due to the rebellions or because the colonies weren’t worth having anymore?
这很有趣。你们有教过殖民主义的终结吗?是因为叛乱还是因为殖民地不再值得拥有了?
feudal_age
This was basically my experience and I started high school in 2007. We also did a lot on peasants and other “normal” people and a decent amount on WW2.
我在2007年开始上高中,我的情况也基本上是这样。我们在农民和其他“普通人”身上教了很多,还有二战。
scantreward
Also 90s education, Tudors, WW2, Tudors, Vikings, Tudors, Industrial Revolution, Tudors, Romans, Fucking Tudors.
No WW1, nothing about colonialism, and almost nothing that really mattered. I was in my late teens/early 20s before I corrected my otherwise piss poor history education. A lot of my contemporaries probably never did, so are totally ignorant on the most important history of all (which I consider to be WW1 and colonialism).
我也是90年代上的高中,都铎王朝、二战、都铎王朝、维京、都铎王朝、工业革命、都铎王朝、罗马、还是TM的都铎王朝。
没有第一次世界大战,没有殖民主义,几乎没有什么重要的东西。在我纠正我糟糕的历史知识时,我都20岁左右了。我的许多同龄人可能从来没有纠正过,所以他们对最重要的历史(我认为是一战和殖民主义) 完全不了解。
Mr-Tootles
In Scotland we focused on internal elements and the two world wars exclusively. There was little to no coverage of colonialism. Most people I know had to educate themselves on this point.
在苏格兰,我们只关注国内的内容和两次世界大战。几乎没有关于殖民主义的内容。在这方面,我认识的大多数人都是自学的。
Eatus_Fetus
In my highschool my class was taught about how scottish immigration contributed to the cultures of Australia and Canada. India was briefly mentioned, we were taught how some of the East India Company’s leadership were originaly from Scotland and also how some Scottish regiments participated in suppressing revolts. Overall I was taught how the Empire made Britian wealthy at the expense of other nations and people
在我高中的时候,我的班教了苏格兰移民如何对澳大利亚和加拿大的文化做出贡献。也简短地提到了印度,告诉我们东印度公司的一些领导起源于苏格兰,还有苏格兰军队是如何参与镇压起义叛乱的。总的来说,我学到的是帝国是如何牺牲其他国家和人民来让不列颠富裕起来的。
Mr-Tootles
I wish I had your teachers!! I swear if I had to hear about German interwar and world war 2 one more time I would explode
真希望那时候教我的是你们老师!!如果再让我听一次德国两战和第二次世界大战的课,我会爆炸的。
yawningangel
My experience is from over 20 years ago so no doubt things have changed.
In high school we covered a fair bit of colonialism, none of it was positive.
The partition of india was something which we studies fairly in depth ,but we also looked at Africa, the Middle east etc.
我那会是20多年前了,所以情况肯定变了。
高中时,我们教了不少殖民主义,但全都不是正面的。
印度分裂是我们深入研究的内容,我们也研究非洲、中东等内容。
MadLadEnzo
I see, were any of the strategies that were used by the colonists covered? That is something I find extremely interesting since its quite surprising given the small amount of people that land on the ports.
明白了,那殖民者使用的策略有教吗?这是我非常感兴趣的事情,因为考虑到登陆的人数很少,让人很好奇。
SeleucusNikator1
Interesting. My school did absolutely nothing on India, but instead we learned quite a bit about Nigeria.
有意思。我们学校完全没有关于印度的内容,反而学了很多尼日利亚的内容。
yawningangel
Most wasn’t that in depth tbh,just learnt about the “insurgencies “.
Did spend a bit more time covering Gandhi and peaceful protest.
大部分讲得都不深入,只是了解了“叛乱”。
确实花了稍微多一点的时间讲述了甘地与和平抗议。
maverick3470
I finished secondary school (high school) in the early 2010’s and like others here the British empire was barely covered. The Boer War was the only part we studied and the empire was never spoken about in a positive way.
We studied the Romans, Normans, WWI, women’s suffrage in the UK, the causes of WWII, and apartheid- specifically the Sharpeville massacre.
I studied the English (War of the Roses) and American civil wars at A Level (age 17).
我在2010年代初期读完中学(高中),和其他人一样,大英帝国几乎没有提到,布尔战争是我们研究的唯一内容,从来没有以积极的方式讲述过帝国。
我们研究了罗马人、诺曼人、第一次世界大战、英国的妇女选举权、第二次世界大战的起因、种族隔离特别是沙佩维尔大屠杀。
我在17岁的时候研究了英国(玫瑰战争)和美国内战。
belalthrone
Wait do you guys call the American Revolution and the War of 1812 “civil wars”? It makes sense if so, it’s just odd to hear as an American lol
等下,你们把美国独立战争和1812年战争叫做“内战”?这样的话也有道理,只是在我这个美国人听起来有点怪。
JosBenson
No, the American Revolution and war of 1812 are not called the civil wars. The American civil war refers to 1865 civil war, the south v the north. Abraham Lincoln etc.
The British do not think of American independence as a civil war. I’m fact we barely cover it as it was of so little importance to British history. It was obviously a big deal for American history, but a mere blip in British history with very little impact.
不是,美国独立战争和1812年战争不叫内战。美国内战是指1865年南北战争,南方VS北方,亚伯拉罕·林肯等。
英国不认为美国独立是内战。事实上,我们几乎不涉及这方面内容,因为它对英国历史的重要性非常低。它对美国历史当然是大事,但在英国历史上只是个小插曲,没什么影响。
belalthrone
Ahh okay, I misunderstood the above post then
啊好吧,我误解了上面的帖子
gratitude1
History in british schools is pretty much just tudors and ww2
英国学校教授的历史几乎都是都铎王朝和二战。
arracudauk663
As a history teacher here in the UK I’ll say that my curriculum is heavily focused on imperialism. I’m surprised at how many aren’t actually.
作为一名英国历史老师,我要说我的课程基本都是关于帝国主义的。实际上我很惊讶竟然有这么多人学的不是这些。
H_J_3
My experience was in the 2000s, and for part of my high school experience only studied history as part of the subject “Humanities”, rather than as its own subject (explanation of the English system at the end). Students who picked different subjects, had different exam boards, or different teachers will have covered different topics to me.
British colonialism was rarely covered directly as a topic on its own. It did feature in a lot of other areas though:
The Atlantic slave trade
The civil rights movement in the USA
Apartheid in South Africa
Indian independence and partitioning (India was probably the most important British colony, learning about its independence movement helps cover the effects of colonialism in the country, and the effect on the empire)
The Rwandan genocide (not specifically British colonialism, but covered because of its importance in recent history, parallels with WW2, and as a particularly extreme example of post-colonial issues)
我上中学的时候是2000年代,我在高中的时候,历史只是作为“人文学科”的一部分,它不是单独的学科。学生选择不同的学科,有不同的考试,或不同的老师教授不同的内容。
英国殖民主义很少直接单独作为一个话题教授。不过,它确实在很多领域中出现。
1、大西洋奴隶贸易
2、美国的民权运动
3、南非的种族隔离
4、印度独立和分裂(印度可能是英国最重要的殖民地,学习它的独立运动有助于了解殖民主义对印度以及对帝国的影响)
5、卢旺达种族灭绝(不是专门针对英国殖民主义,而是因为它在近代史上的重要性,与第二次世界大战相似,是后殖民时代问题的一个极端例子)