QA问答：为什么这么多美国人想要移民到瑞典、瑞士、挪威、丹麦等？_风闻

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Why do so many Americans want to move to Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Australia, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, and the Netherlands?

为什么这么多的美国人想搬去瑞典、瑞士、挪威、丹麦、澳大利亚、加拿大、日本、新西兰和荷兰？

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Why do so many Americans want to move to Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Australia, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, and the Netherlands?

为什么这么多的美国人想搬去瑞典、瑞士、挪威、丹麦、澳大利亚、加拿大、日本、新西兰和荷兰？

Pilar Quezzaire

I decided to answer this as an American who actually moved to the Netherlands. The other posters are Americans living Stateside who haven’t emigrated and are speculating.

There are three main reasons I left the US:

The US has a cruel social system. From its credit ratings to expensive and sporadic health care, Americans are punished for poverty and rewarded for greed. This is on top of more virulent racism, police brutality, religious fundamentalism and other signs of an unequal and failing state. There are better systems that make it possible to live free and live well. The Netherlands happened to be where I ended up with a job after having lived abroad a while. I discovered quickly how much less stressful it is to live, work, buy a house, pay for health care, etc. Things are not perfect in the Netherlands, but there is less inequality and more opportunities for educated people.

Americans enjoy being cruel to one another. They participate in a cruel system, and this rubs off on how they interact with each other and “the other.” I got tired of it. It’s easier to be kind and charitable for good effect instead of satisfying one’s ego or dolling out “charity” to those considered “deserving” (almost always with flawed judgment, emphasis on judgment. Americans are very judgmental compared to many other countries.)

Lastly, I was exhausted by Americans’ ignorance of the rest of the world. The constant “American Dream” propaganda, being inundated with the country’s “greatness” despite its flaws being glaringly obvious, and otherwise being unable to see past America to other, more successful countries. The US takes that ignorance unto the international stage through its military and diplomatic thuggery, and that hadn’t done much to help the world.

I just didn’t want to be associated with America’s problem nor promote its “greatness.” It’s a right-wing country with ego problems, even if its people are from many different opinions and walks of life.

我决定以一个移居荷兰的美国人的身份来回答这个问题。其他的发帖人都是住在美国的美国人，他们没有移民过，只是在猜测。

我离开美国有三个主要原因：

美国的社会制度很残酷。从信用评级到昂贵而零星的医疗保健，美国人因贫穷而受到惩罚，因贪婪而得到奖励。除此之外，还有更严重的种族主义、警察暴行、宗教原教旨主义和其他一些不平等和失败国家的迹象。有更好的体制系统可以让人们自由地生活，生活得更好。在国外生活了一段时间后，我在荷兰找到了一份工作。我很快发现，生活、工作、买房、支付医疗保健等方面的压力大大减轻了。荷兰的情况并不完美，但不平等现象减少了，受过教育的人有了更多的机会。

美国人喜欢对彼此残忍。他们参与了一个残酷的体制，这影响了他们如何与他人沟通互动。我厌倦了。与满足自我或施舍给那些“值得”的人相比，做一个善良和慈善的人更容易获得良好的效果。（几乎总是有错误的判断，而且强调判断。和许多其他国家相比，美国人很爱评头论足。）

最后，美国人对世界其他地区的无知让我筋疲力尽。不断的“美国梦”宣传，充斥着这个国家的“伟大”，尽管它的缺陷是显而易见的，否则就无法看到其他更成功的国家超越美国。美国通过军事和外交手段将这种无知带到国际舞台上，而这对世界并没有多大帮助。

我只是不想和美国的问题扯上关系，也不想宣扬它的“伟大”。

这是一个有自我问题的右翼国家，尽管它的人民有着不同的观点和生活阶层。

Chris Ebbert

Well, those are very nice, modern countries where life is comfortable.

And if someone has options, one of these will definitely offer an alternative to the US. I considered all of these plus some when I moved on from the US, too.

I guess the main thing I was missing in the US was an element of depth. Having grown up in Europe, it just seemed to me that the whole American living experience was a bit like “just add water” - everything was quick and easy, colourful, and presented with a wide grin by some fabulously upbeat fella who wished you a nice day.

This was immensely fun for a while, but then it sank in that the whole world that was created there was somehow made from cardboard, and that all the flashy Buicks and particle board mansions came with a short expiry date and weren’t really based in much history or culture.

So it’s basically like living surrounded by cheap and flashy home improvement market grade stuff.

I kind of woke up when I visited Japan, and my sister in London.

That’s when it dawned on me that there was a whole dimension of interestingness that’s lacking in the US. And eventually, I left again, and have found my home in Europe anew. I suppose I had to leave first to appreciate what I had there to begin with.

嗯，那些都是生活舒适的现代化国家。

如果有人有选择的机会，其中一个国家肯定会提供一个替代美国的选择。当我离开美国的时候，我会考虑所有的问题。

我想我在美国最缺少的是深度元素。我是在欧洲长大的，对我来说，整个美国的生活经历有点像“加水就好”——一切都很快捷、简单、丰富多彩，而且会有一个非常乐观的家伙带着笑容祝你有个美好的一天。

这在一段时间内是非常有趣的，但随后你就会意识到，在那里创造的整个世界都是用纸板做成的，所有华而不实的别克车和颗粒板大厦都是短期的，而且没有多少历史或文化基础。

所以基本上就像生活在廉价和华丽的家居装饰市场级别的东西。

当我去日本的时候，我的妹妹在伦敦。

那时我才意识到，这里有一个美国所缺乏的有趣的维度。最终，我再次离开了日本，在欧洲重新找到了我的家。我想我必须先离开才能欣赏和理解我在那里开始的一切。

James Martin

The reality is the number of Americans becoming ex-pats isn’t growing per capita, just the overall number is increasing because the population base is growing. So the emigration from the US is pretty much like it has been for several decades (no big change).

So now that the “so many” part of the question has been addressed. Let’s look at what kind of people move from a Capitalistic Republic to a Socialist Democracy nation (alas Venezuela doesn’t fall into that category as the so-called patriots seem to always troll in these kind of posts).

Quality of life. This is a biggie for most since money isn’t everything and the mercenary style of an Ayn Rand inspired political and corporate attitude is too much for people willing to become foreigners and leave it all behind. Life is about living, not just about working. So those looking for a better balance of work and life outside of work will choose any of those countries (except for Japan).

Raising children. Ex-pats don’t have to worry about their kids being shot at school and don’t go through active shooter drills because unrestricted gun rights isn’t an issue outside the US. Add the better quality of education for elementary and secondary school, the kids can always go back to the US for University if they want, but the parents know their child will make it to adulthood without being shot at school, not something that can be guaranteed in the US.

Healthcare. The US healthcare is over priced and underperforming; you are more likely to die in the US healthcare system than any of the other countries. The US is the only of those countries where medical bankruptcy is a thing.

Depth and Worldview. Born in America (13th generation), but moved when I was five weeks old to the UK and later Germany, I grew up in Europe, so “returning” to the US for University made me more a foreigner than an American. I tried to integrate but the culture shock was massive. What I found hardest was the lack of depth and myopic worldview in the majority of people. Friendly like nowhere else in the world, but too hung up on religion, sex, politics, sports, and cults of personality.

事实是，成为外籍人士的美国人数量并不是人均增长，而是总体增长，因为人口基数在增长。所以从美国移民到其他国家的情况和过去几十年差不多（没有大的变化）。

所以现在问题的“很多”部分已经被解决了。让我们看看什么样的人从资本主义共和国走向社会主义民主国家（委内瑞拉不属于这一类，因为所谓的爱国者似乎总是这类帖子中喷子）。

生活质量，这对大多数人来说都是件大事，因为金钱不是一切，而受艾茵·兰德鼓舞的政治和企业唯利是图的态度和风格，让那些愿意成为外国人、把一切抛在脑后的人难以承受。生活就是生活，而不仅仅是工作。所以那些想在工作之外寻求更好的工作和生活平衡的人会选择这些国家中的任何一个（除了日本）。

抚养孩子，外籍人士不用担心他们的孩子在学校被枪击，也不用参加积极的射击训练，因为在美国以外，不受限制的持枪权利不是一个问题。再加上小学和中学的教育质量更好，如果他们想的话，孩子以后也是可以回到美国上大学的，但父母知道并保证他们的孩子会在学校里长大而不会被枪击，这在美国是不能保证的。

医疗保健服务，美国医疗服务定价过高，表现不佳；你在美国的医疗体系中死亡的可能性比其他任何国家都大。美国是唯一一个医疗破产的国家。

深度和世界观。我出生在美国（第13代），但在我5周大的时候搬到了英国，后来又搬到了德国，我在欧洲长大，所以“回到”美国上大学让我更像一个外国人，而不是美国人。我试图融入美国社会，但文化冲击太大了。我发现最困难的是大多数人缺乏深度和短视的世界观。与世界上其他任何地方都不一样，大多数人都不友好，但对宗教、性、政治、体育和个人崇拜太过执着。